Hey KeyCode! I created a Discord and I would really appreciate it if you consider joining it. It's merely a chat to make communication easier, so you don't have to worry about talking or anything. ^^
Just so I know, do you still have interest of helping out, or is work and studying taking its toll? It would help a lot if you joined us, just to see what's up and our current projects.
Sorry I just got back (After several days of being sick ) on editing. Am just wondering if I will use the lastest Template: Fuse or is it still under for changes????
I believe that I have finished changing the code and the template. I also actually did noticed that you used the templates elsewhere, but I changed the parameters a bit differently, but I hope you can understand and use it in that way, or you could change it to fit your needs. In case you do that, it is also Likely that all the pages that have used the template will get messed up...
Aura Kingdom: Goddess of Envoys (Game). If you could fill in some details and/or improve the layout it would be great. Saying it here in case you don't notice my to-bug list!
Hello! Sorry I didn't have a lot of time, so I haven't been checking the wiki frequently. How about Lodin? Did she contribute or not? And I checked the page and added some things there, but I am not too sure about it because it might not be accurate. The translation of the "qiyuan" also might not make any sense, it is the energy that also created the Eidolons, for that I know.
Also, I created the AmmoIcon () and called it the [[File:AmmoIcon.png]], but you are free to change the name. Was this what you were referring to?
The {{Other Fish}} template has been fixed. As for the Dark Flare Trap, I don't know how to change it because most of these icons are from the TWAK website. Maybe you can ask Bermuda about this.
And by the way, the {{Eidolon}} template will not look properly on mobile since it is not a portable infobox, though I made it look like one. This is mostly due to the usage of tabbers, but I might test with it some time later as I don't have time right now.
If you have anything else to ask, feel free to stop by and leave a message (but for now, I might have only an hour on Wikia)!
Thank you so much for adding details! I'm really curious about this game, hmm~ so I'm glad there's someone who can provide data. I'm certain that "qiyuan" is Gaia's power, since that's what created the world and Eidolons etc. so I think you can just say "Gaia's power".
As for the wiki, do not worry, I'm just glad you check it from time to time despite not really playing the game yourself. I myself have become more busy with school and all, so I understand how busy you must be. Hmm, last time I saw Lodin was about a month ago when she worked on the SnS pages. I'm sure she's busy too or just lazy like me lol.
And yes! That's exactly the icon I needed. I'll add it on the gunslinger skills after school. And I also capitalized the "I" in icon if you wondered.
I'll try asking Bermuda about it later.
Take your time! It's not anyhting super important so it's fine leaving it as it is for now.
Can you fix the Envoy Path template, Skill template and any item template? It doesn't display properly and now it looks kinda wacky x.x
On the side note, I'm sorry to say that I haven't been active lately xd school is being stressful and I'm also trying to contribute in the Twin Saga Wikia, and I can't seem to find spare time (or motivation sometimes) to edit. Once everything slows down tho, I hope I can do stuff here again.
Hey it is okay! I happened to come back today but I did not see this message until I was about to log out lol. So I basically went to all the item templates and made some fixes, but I am not sure if I got most of the item templates because sometimes the templates are named very differently and weird. I did go to Special:AllPages for the templates, so I hope I am not missing anything!
Well that was actually a lot of work! A few weeks ago, I received a message on my email about Astrial28 changing the {{Hr}} template, but I did not think anything would happen until I checked the first item template and noticed it should be the {{Hr}} template making the spaces since the code looks untouched on the items. So I went to the {{Hr}} template but I noticed that maybe Astrial28 left it like that for other uses since I am never too sure on the templates she uses, but since the {{Hr}} template was shared among probably over forty templates, I have to change one by one so that I don't interfere with her work... - -'
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! And it is okay if you do not help out as active as you were before, all of us have busy lives and would have to move on soon enough, but coming back to visit and do even the simplest edits would of course benefit the wiki in some way.
Thank you for fixing it >< when I first saw it I thought it was only my work laptop being screwed, but I didn't realize until recently that wasn't the case. I can tell Astrial (or anyone) to be more careful next time with those "general" kind of templates.
It's just sad to see the wiki so deserted so I usually try to do at least something every day. I know when time's not right tho, so I understand what you mean. Even if we're going turtle speed the wiki is improving, little by little :p
I'm currently testing out the {{Skill List}} template and have added the Right Path and Left Path weapon masteries. The only thing I am confused about is the combo system. I've checked some class pages and see that some do not have a skill or something that should be considered a skill to be placed in the template. I've seen the Necromancer class with a lot of minions to summon as a combo, that I can add but I just want some clarification.
Sorry if I was unclear. Let's take Wizard as example:
Wizard's combo skill is Elemental Burst, that's the skill itself. The buffs are not skills, thus they should not be implemented under Combo System.
As for Right/Left Path, Only the 1st icon is the skill. For Wizard's case, Demonic Radiance and Solar Detonation. The other ones are not skills; they're passives, so they shouldn't be included.
Now for Necromancer's case, only Soul Grudge and Sanguine Incantation should be listed under their respective paths. And the summons shouldn't be listed under Combo System, as Devil's Pact is actually the skill itself.
Do you think you could make the Combo System header go blank if there's nothing under it? Some classes doesn't have combo system as skills (for example Ravager).
Hey! I forgot to message you yesterday, that I hid the Combo System header and took out the left and right parameters and made it l icon and r icon.
I've also changed the {{Pet}} template and now the user can edit the "Only one companion can be summoned at a time." but it is set to default.
Oh, I also added the PNG concept art of the Shinobi class to match with every other class pages, should we keep the JPG files then? We'd probably need Bermuda to add the Shuriken icon.
Anyway, thanks as always! You can delete the JPG files, they were only served as placeholders for your PNG images xD. I'll leave him a message on his page ^o^
OH wow, super sorry for the late reply! It has been really busy these months and I can't really get online, but I see that probably this problem is fixed now? But if it isn't, I don't think I can really help with this one.
And by the way, the wiki is becoming much better! Hopefully it doesn't put too much stress on you guys. I will be open for a while, so if you have any questions, you can ask me and I will try my best to fix it if I can.
Glad to see you back! (*ﾟ∀ﾟ)ﾄﾞｷﾄﾞｷ And nah, it's not fixed yet. I asked Bermuda about it but it looks like he's busier than ever. >.< Instead of posting the posts according to author, I was thinking of it posting according to category instead, namely the News category. Bermuda did that on the Twin Saga wiki so therefore do I believe it'd work here too.
If you got free time, you can check my To-Bug List! While most of the tasks are aimed towards others, you can tackle 'em down too to lighten the workload if you feel like it.
Hey thanks for replying back! And I've fixed the author to category for the news now, so feel free to add in news.
And I took a look at your sandboxes and that is a lot of work! But hopefully I can help with some of them. And your Icon database and minor coding sandbox page looks really neat, I think it should be made into a wiki guide article so that more users can see them. You can put the information in the Project:Icon Database article or some other name lol. Well that is if you'd like to turn it to a wiki guide.
Hey! I went out for a while but I quickly finished some things that I looked over at your Sandbox.
I finished compressing the image and it can be found here, it is about 246KB:
I am still trying to make a good layout for the Costume Collaboration page but I don't really know a lot about it.
I don't really know how to help out with a new Eidolon page layout, but I went ahead and made this out of boredom: Head over to my sandbox.
I will help out with the Envoy Path page later on if I have time.
The Profession Lv. Template, I took a look at the screenshot, so I just quickly made one that looks somewhat like it, but I don't think that it really is how you want it though. Head to my sandbox for it too.
Oh my gosh your work is beautiful! ﾟ･:*｡(ꈍᴗꈍ)ε｀*)~｡*:･ﾟ The costume collaboration and the profession table is exactly what I imagined, and the Eido template looks sooooo neat and organized! Splendid! But before we use the new Eido template, I want Bermuda to see it too just to confirm what he thinks.
There are some stuff to note:
Rather than an "Acquirable" section I would rather have a "Key of Gaia" section since the acquirable methods can be... a lot and listing them on the Key page would be neater.
The Star buffs stacks upon each other for each star acquired. I was thinking if you could list the previous star to the next star? That way the effect is highlighted and also evading confusion.
As icon database, yeah I planned to make it public, but I didn't know how. I guess I gotta do some research now lol. Btw I was also thinking of making the To-Bug List public too where everyone can add tasks and such.
Hello! Thanks for the reply and glad that they are what you wanted in the least. So then how should I name the profession template? Professional Level?
I went and changed the eidolon stats template, which makes them go horizontally than vertically now. I also added the star buffs next to each other again but I'm not sure if that's what you meant. And of course! You don't have to use the template if you want and it's always good to get feedback.
As for the acquirable and Key of Gaia sections, I added both in, but I can take them out unless you want to just use the list on the Key page lol.
And you could just copy and paste your sandbox content onto the project article page as a wiki guide. You can take a look at other project pages to get the image.
And oh! I fixed the tooltips and hovering because they were not working very well in the wiki for so long lol. And hopefully you can also suggest what to add for the {{Envoy Path}} template and also the pages. By the way, do you have icons for the envoy path skills? I used only the one with the class icons to get started, but I think the information I added are outdated. You might as well update it if you can since I don't know what the information in the game says anymore.
I will change the look of the class skills pages sometime later because they are really out of the current theme. Have a good day!
Yeah Profession Level works fine. As for the Eido template, the stats and star buffs looks perfect! But when I said to add the Key of Gaia section, I meant it to replace the Acquirable section aka remove it. I'm bad at expressing myself so I'm sorry if I was unclear. >.<
Unfortunately I don't have the icons for the Envoy's Path, but I think I can add them myself. Since I'm not online atm, I'll give feedback about it once I've taken a good look at it. But what I can base on right now, that's exactly the improvement I was looking for, so good job! (゜∀゜)!!! I'll try to work on the Envoy's Path pages ASAP.
If you're free, it would be wonderful if you could join me in wiki chat. It's always easier for me to communicate directly instead of messages. xD
Oh sorry I didn't quite get it lol it's my problem, not yours! And I will fix it to be the Key of Gaia sometime later on, I don't have time right now and I think I can come back at about a few hours, so maybe I can go on wiki chat (and if you are still logged on at that time lol).
And take your time, you can contribute on other things, I think the Envoy Path pages take a lot of patience and time. And the template as of now is:
{{Envoy Path|height of the tooltip, if the information gets longer,
just type in something greater than 200, I currently have every one of them
at 200|icon-name.jpg/png|skill name|cooldown or was it duration - that green
hourglass|description|effects}}
And I will go ahead and make the Proffesion Level template since it will only take a few minutes.
No don't worry, I tend to be vague at times xD and talk about coincidence, because I was going to be busy for a few hours too lol. I'll be on wiki chat once I'm back.
No cooldown is showed, so removing it would be great.
When the template is centralized such as Wizard/Envoy's Path, the display gets overlapped by the side bar, making a part of it cut off. This issue isn't on templates that isn't centralized, such as Holy Sword (Class)/Envoy's Path where the display looks fine.
When hovering down along the description it doesn't fade away. This could be an issue when we want to hover over to a node beneath one, as the description will be in the way.
Otherwise, it's spot on! Thank you for taking time to improve it
Oh, and there's also some other stuff I realized:
We can skip the Cost part of the Costume Collaboration since they're not available here.
The newer Eidolons lack the image formation that the older Eidolons have. For example, Cesela doesn't have the same gif format as Serif. In fact, some Eidolons doesn't have gifs at all x.x so Idk how much the Eidolon template can handle different kind of images.
Yes I saw that it overlapped so I started not to centralize them on some of the Envoy Path pages after, but I was lazy to go back and edit the previous ones for one mistake lol.
Okay, I can get the cooldown away and I am not sure about the description part. I think it works fine on mines. When you hover away from the icon, does the tooltip stay there? I think I should add in the transition effects but I'm not sure if it will work, or I can make them appear at a certain position.
If the cost part of the costume collaboration isn't here, then maybe we can add the lower table next to the existing table.
I tried to resize Serif's gif, but it didn't work. I was planning on making every single Eidolon image around the same size so everything looks neat, but I think I should try with the other Eidolons. But then do you have any images of the Eidolons that show their full form and around the same width?
If I made that into a template, the tabber already has three tabs. I noticed that some Eidolons don't have a three star form, so maybe you can write that the eidolon doesn't have a three star form.
So I saw that you added the new eido template, and tbh... I prefer the sandbox one lol. Mostly because the Acquirable/Evolution section will most of the time be blank because they all follow the same pattern. We can always include the evolution cost on a separate table.
Hello! At first I did just try to use the sandbox one, but I realized that the tabbers were an obstacle. This means that you will have to add the star buffs three times if there are three star levels, which I didn't want because it might be a lot of work. If I didn't have the tabbers, then you guys can write the star buffs only one time.
The tabbers only work on the existing page, the template itself. So I split the Eidolon template into two: {{Eidolon}} and {{Eidolon/star}}. When I tried it on an Eidolon with two stars, the tabber will still display what was already on the template (Serif's information) without any other parameters inside of the tabbers.
However, it still didn't work when I split the template, but it lessened a workload. So I decided to get the star buffs out of the tabber because if not, you will have to add the star buffs three times. So I decided to add something else inside, but then when you use it, you will have to put everything in the content.
Unless you really want to add the star buffs three times for each star level, then that is up to you, but that might need more parameters. I added a content parameter, which will allow you to use the {{Eidolon/star}} template inside of it, which you have to include the tabber to indicate how many star levels. You can refer to the {{Eidolon}} page to look at how to use it for example.
Before I change it back to star buffs, I want to know if you are satisfied with adding the star buffs more than once if the Eidolon has more than one star level.
Hello! So I went ahead and created templates {{EC Linking}}, {{EC Non-Conversative}}, and {{EC Conversative}} for each type of Eidolon Conversation. I've used them on Merrilee's page, so you can go there to check it out. I also provided the syntax on how to use the templates. If you have any questions, I can always change them on my sandbox.
I also added a few things on the layout for the Costume Collaboration. You can check my Sandbox and suggest any changes to it. The thing about the costume collaboration is that it didn't look quite good with the black table, so I went ahead and used similar colors to the Japanese news page. I will make that a template after you suggest anything to be fixed.
Just a comment I wanted to add in. Don't you think the TOC is a little awkward being the first thing readers see? Of all things, the first thing readers should see is an introduction or a descriptive and informative template. That way, they can clearly see a detailed page at first sight and read on from that.
At first, I didn't want the TOC to be on top of the page either, but it didn't really look good when the TOC was under the template lol. So then do you want the TOC to be under the template and before the skills?
There are many ways to approach it, some of which I may not consider but will share as an idea.
Force TOC to the right, then condensing the skills template to a smaller width, so that the TOC and the Skills template fits perfectly with each other. [a weird idea]
Create an introductory paragraph just underneath the Eidolon template [what I would consider]
An about section, albeit without the section header, that describes the Eidolon, personality, history, etc.
No TOC
See if we are allowed to have a TOC either just outside the content space (on the left side of the wiki page, above the background) or have it be on the sidebar. [check Wikia's Terms of Use]
These are all great ideas lol. I don't know about the skills template and its width though and maybe we should just get the description part out of the Eidolon template for the introductory paragraph. That way we can probably use move the TOC to the right. Maybe the skills section should be under the Eidolon's Wish section.
And if we had the TOC on the sidebar, that would be great but I doubt that's going to work lol. And anyway, thanks for the feedback! Do you have anything else you can suggest while Kyara isn't on?
I think the description part out of the template and placing it in the introductory paragraph is a better approach. Moving sections would make it really awkward, IMO, since I like to organize an article in order of importance, (like main information, main importance [skills, etc.], minor gameplay [wishes, conversations, etc.], dot dot dot). It's like what I did with our locations pages, with introduction, places, NPCs, etc.
As for the sidebar thing, I'm sure it's possible. The only possible issue is violating Wikia's ToU. But having it on the sidebar on really long articles would make things smoother, especially if the TOC scrolled with you, so you can just click on a section without having to scroll back up. Idk lol.
Lastly, I want Starbucks as part of my suggestion.
Edit: Here's a real suggestion:
Does anyone have any idea what we can use as an image on the Special:Community page? Image should be at least 1200x250px and must be saved under .
Well then I guess we should just remove the description and use it as the introductory paragraph. I just thought that the Eidolon Wishes might be able to make (if we put the TOC to the right) everything look better after the description since it doesn't have any template lol. Well I guess we could just go without that then.
It doesn't really have to be on a sidebar...sometimes I make things out of the content lines and into the background with fixed position, but I think putting the TOC somewhere else is already possibly violating Wikia's Term of Use. Well I will just try to remove the description part then.
And lol! Sorry I can't give you any Starbucks, but I hope you found your way to a nearby Starbucks.
Oh by the way, maybe we could make the Eidolon template float on the right with about 300px wide instead of the entire width, basically just making it an infobox in the end (then do we have to change that to a portable one?). We could stack everything on top of each other and only include the tabber for the star levels. What do you think?
We can definitely use an infobox. Although seeing as you worked hard on this template I didn't really thought about it. The template you made actually looks really nice. It's just the matter of the TOC that makes the page awkward in a sense.
No it's okay, I didn't really take much of my time to putting a lot of effort on the template, but I still think that maybe an infobox makes the most sense. Well, I am not going to change it until Kyara comes online, I think that most of these things will have to have his approval lol. I don't really contribute much anymore, so I have to satisfy the people who still play the game.
And for the Eidolon Conversations, especially the Conversative section, do you think it is too long? Since sometimes there are more questions, which makes them fill in a lot of space. Should I put another collapsible that will contain all of the conversative questions? Oh, sorry if I am bothering you doing other things.
Edit: I think that the community page picture should include a background like a screenshot taken from the game and then possibly an NPC in it. We can probably add in text when using GIMP or Photoshop indicating that this is a community page or what the wiki is looking for. Well that's what I think...
I'm fine with an infobox! Just remember to show me it while you experiment (゜∀゜)!!!
If we decide to keep it as it is, the TOC looks kinda awkward lol. I was thinking of 1. have it beneath the Eidolon template or 2. remove it completely. Most likely the first alternative since the TOC is needed.
As for the conversations, could you remove the bullet lists and centralize the text? That way it'll look more consistent with the question and make lonesome answers less spacey. Oh, and if you feel like it takes up a lot of space, we can create a separate page for instance, Serif/Conversations.
The costume collaboration looks great! And just so you know, the costume itself is gonna be displayed beneath the character banner, in case you missed it. I believe it would look perfect. ヾ（＾ヮ＾)ﾉ
Hey again! So I made the template look like a portable infobox but I did not use the infobox class or the portable infobox codes. Maybe Bermuda can turn them into portable ones but I have another template used inside the actual one, so it might not work out. Check my sandbox.
If we use an infobox, I think that we can keep the TOC in place and put the description as an introductory paragraph. I've also centralized the text on the conversations and you can now use the (:) sign instead of the bullet sign for the answers. I hope you understand how to use the {{EC Conversative}} especially.
I also converted the Costume Collaboration table to a template, I have it named as {{Costume Collaboration}}, but if you want to change the name, then go ahead.
Hello! I see, I might need to update the {{Eidolon}} and {{Eidolon/star}} template first because I was just trying out on my sandbox lol. I think that it will look fine if I changed the style of the Eidolon/star template looking like a portable infobox while you can probably change the code of the Eidolon template to a portable one after I make it an infobox instead of the 100% width one.
It was originally one template and not a split template because I realized that the tabbers have to be manually put inside of the template when in use. Maybe the area for putting the Eidolon/star template should have a padding of 0 so that it looks like it belongs there. We will see what to do with it after Kyara replies.
Darn time zones Dx. I wish you guys are online when I ain't sleepin' lol.
The infobox definitely needs some improvements but I believe you guys can make it pretty. Like, move the levels beneath the tabber and maybe remove the evolution cost completely from the template. Do whatever you have to do with the star template; my permission isn't needed for that. xD
Super satisfied with the conversation template! And the costume collaboration template looks very promising. I'm gonna try using it soon o3o
EDIT: After trying the costume collaboration template... I just realized that the template itself is not needed at all, since the goal is to only showcase the images. I'M SO SORRY DX
Hey! It's okay, we can probably convert that template to something else later on if there are some uses. I removed the evolution cost out of the template and the levels beneath the tabber.
I took a look at your Costume Collaboration album and I believe I can confirm the second and third ones under the Honorable mentions. The first one seems like it is from Touhou, I don't know. The second and third is from a Chinese fighting/story game (a little like a simulation or visual novel), Chinese Paladin or Xiānjiàn Qí Xiá Chuán (first season) and the characters are Lǐ Xiāoyáo (boy) and Zhào Líng'er (girl). Also, the Fantasy Frontier Chinese section, the anime is "Qin's Moon" (not with the u in Qin).
The Eidolon looks pretty nice! I did some minor adjustments but overall, I'm happy with the result. I'm gonna try get Storm back and make him revamp all pages for me (ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ*: ･ﾟ
And thanks for noting! Hopefully I'll be able to find all the other collabs lol.
On TWAK's official Facebook they released some white day pictures with quotes. Do you think you can find time to translate them? I'm adding the pictures to the wiki and it would be neat to feature the quotes too.
EDIT: It seems like the girls also have quotes from their Valentine's Day. If you could translate them too, it would be even greater!
Sure, I would be very happy to help! So which pictures with White Day and Valentines for the eidolons have the quotes? I saw on Facebook that there are only a few pictures with quotes on them, can you refer to which one because I do not even know which of these eidolons are. And I can't seem to find the girl eidolons with their Valentines quotes, if you could refer to the picture, then I am sure it would be a great help!
Here are the translations! Sorry if I replied so late! Do note that some sentences are connected, but I made them on separate lines to keep with how the official placed it (take Aelius's second quote for example, the first phrase had no punctuation but actually goes with the line after it). I also made some phrases that had a lot of commas sound more like sentences because Chinese phrases have different grammar rules (for some I had to take out the commas to make sense and sometimes extra commas for apposition). Lucifer:
A return favor...? Boring! Merely just humans, dare make me do such unreasonable demands. Put on the collar, crown me as the Supreme Lord!
Aelius:
I made an oath once, to let warmth pass through all the hearts of those who are unfortunate. If you also have any remorse for the past just let me accompany you, walk out the shadows, and welcome the sunlight's embrace.
Bealdor:
Mhn... (Biting the flower gently while playing with the hair, using a 45-degree angle to look at you...) Is this handsome? Hand-handsome what! I-I didn't think of feeling happy at all!
Uriel:
March, the girls' most anticipated day for response is coming! Come and see how the Male Gods will respond!
Diao Chan:
I heard that in owner's world, there is a custom of giving sweets to their favorite persons ~ The maiden, I, also tried to make these sweets, owner ~ want to try the taste? ~
Zashiki Warashi:
For the sake of owner, I did not even sleep, working very, very hard to make this, oh ~♪ Hope that owner will accept my chocolate...hehe.
Freya:
Ah ~ This chocolate ~ Hope you will accept it... In it contains my thoughts about your token of kindness, if you are willing to accept my heart, I will be very happy.
Serena:
I heard that there is a special day this week... And this "special day" might detonate「FFF Group」to burst away?! To avoid unfortunate(?) occurrence, firefighting little angel-Mina, from today ~ 2/14(day) This sentence was weird in Chinese because it did not even end it, the next line seemed to give a different message. Everyday there will be cute, beautiful girls to accompany everyone, oh! They also have inner thoughts to give to envoys their confession, oh! OR They also have inner thoughts to confess to envoys, oh!
Feel free to proofread them because this is the best I can do. It is such a shame that there are so many unique and Chinese words full of meaning that I cannot even reciprocate in English.
I don't really know Chinese so I can't really proofread anything. xD I do have some things I want to point out tho:
Since I planned to add the confessions on the gallery, I think we'll have to do punctuation or connect them together since we can't really have the lines separate like that.
I think "owner" is Master since some Eidolons (like Diao Chan) are known to refer the player like that.
The first 3 sentences of Serena (or everything) might not be her confession but X-Legend noting what they're doing. So we can exclude that part.
Don't worry about it being late, you did a great job! Thank you! Also, it looks like they released Hansel too if you don't mind.
Okay, whatever is fine and up to you! Yeah, at first I thought that it might be "master" instead of owner because it sounded weird to say owner...
And I don't know about Serena... Hansel's quotes were really easy to translate, but I didn't have the time to reply yesterday after my Internet went off.
Hansel:
I really do not know what master will like? How about master and I divide half of Gretel's donut ~ Ribbon...? Why do sweets need to be wrapped with a ribbon...?
If you have anything else, feel free to message me and I will take my time to give an answer if I could!
I've been thinking about it for a while, and I've decided to take on the Admin title. Storm, a fellow editor here which I often play with in-game, already sent an adaption request. We discussed about it already and decided to become admins together!
However, considering how long the list is... he has yet gotten an answer. So could you bestow us the title of Admin? We planned to do lots of stuff, like improving templates, updating the main page, and a lot more. o3o
If you don't want to, it's fine. But could you at least unlock the quest template? Storm has been wanting to improve it.
He also created a blog post about it in order to gather everyone's opinion. If you got time, feel free to leave a comment!
Hello! So sorry I have been busy with college lately and haven't gotten the time to do much Wiki stuff.
Yes, sure! You and Storm want to be administrators, right? Then that's great! It is great to hear that there will be more admins trying to improve the wiki because we have all gone inactive...
I would like to see your improving templates and other stuff as well! I hope that this wiki becomes a larger community! You two sure make a team of active admins, and I hope in the future you don't become like us...
And so sorry about locking the quest template. Eh, that was a long time ago and yeah, so I will make it available to users now. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask a; time! I will try my best to reply back!
Oh my Gaia thanks! I understand that life must be hectic, with college and stuff. In fact, school has started to catch up for me too x.x
I can't really promise anything but I'll try my best! >.< Yeah, I really hope this wiki grows. Actually, I think I've seen it grow to a degree and I'm glad how things have moved forward now.
Expect questions anytime soon, because I won't hesitate to ask them!
I was wondering if you could help me with something? I am in game playing a ranger but i dont want the ability info there when i hover over my ability so i can see my cast time is there a way to fix that?
In case you don't know me, I'm Kyara and I've been editing this wiki for quite a while. I was wondering if you still have an interest in this game? Do you still play? If so, I think it's time to get this place kicked again!
Well hello there. Sorry I haven't been active ever since, I go to college and such so...
And yes I've been receiving wikia mails all in my inbox so I frequently check the status and activity in this wiki. When I first saw a new contributor, you, I thought that you might contribute a little bit because many people have come to contribute and gone with an edit or two.
But I'm glad that the wiki has picked up the pace! Thanks to you, actually I looked at your page quite often and see if you enjoy the wiki and the editing here. I very appreciated your help and others that have come to the wiki!
Your edit count kept increasing and I was surprised. You contributed a lot to the wiki, so maybe you would like to gain admin rights?
Oh I also have a question about the Warbow, Ranger, page. I think we can keep it as Ranger in the main page because it sounds similar to other classes with a name like that instead of Warbow.
I might need to fix some issues in templates and other things that will be easy for you guys in the eyes. But only if I have time...
I don't really contribute a lot anymore, and if Bermuda still contributes, then I guess this wiki is still active. You have a lot of information for the game, so I really hope you and a few other members can expand pages and a wider database to future endeavors and game fans. Since you still play the game, compared to me who has left it for a year already..., I assume that you have the right to be an admin. There, you can be an active admin with Bermuda, if he still contributes, and you can ask him for use of templates, MediaWiki, etc. if you are helping trouble. You can ask me, but I will take a lot of time replying to you and probably wont even give an answer/accidentally deleted the message, such.
You can reply to this message on what you think :)
I see. I can understand that you're busy with school work, as I myself am busy with high school myself. Real life can make one such a busy-bee, like all my friends are in-game lol.
Woah, it makes me happy to see that someone has been watching over me! Actually, I was kinda shy and unsure whatever or not to join, but in the end I had to muster my courage and do things one step at the time. I was also kinda shy with interacting with the other editors (Bermuda) but as time passed, I grew more confident with my wiki skills (which are still at novice level) and decided in the end to try to awaken more activity.
Everyone I've talked to here has asked the same question as you lol. While I'm honored that people think so, I don't wanna be admin. From my experiences from other wikis, I prefer just being a regular editor.
The reason I renamed Ranger to Warbow was because Warbow is official name. Ranger was, if ever, seldom named and was pretty much only spoken before it was released, which is why I think Warbow is the more correct term. Having Ranger on the main page is OK I guess, since its often newcomers entering and relating the classes with their previous MMORPG experience.
As for Bermuda, he said he didn't play the game anymore and has gone inactive here. Over the past days I've decided to bug him whenever I needed admin help xD. If I was an admin I'd probably screw things up so I guess I'm gonna add you to my to-bug list!
Wow, thanks for replying! Yeah I'm sure everyone has only a few hours of editing for wikis, but I hope that you will guide other members to expand the wiki!
Oh don't be shy! If you have any information, you can edit and contribute so that the knowledge you have can be included in any database! When I started picking up on this wiki, it was a load of work and I started as one person, but it's always good to know that there are other people who suddenly join and grow the wiki together. I can also be shy at interacting with members, but I try my best to answer them in an administrative sort of way...
And as to your skills in editing here, I think they are already great! I can't believe though, that actually somebody would really create the pages, edit them and understand how we actually made these pages (especially because of the templates). I appreciate that they follow our examples and edit with their skills put into these pages.
Hmm you seem experienced enough to be an admin, you can do anything here and mess around with the templates and wiki changes to the way you like it. You can ask me or Bermuda for help if you can, but if you are an admin then you can freely do something very easily :) But I support your decision, and you can message me any time if you change your mind.
Sure we will stay with Warbow, I mean I don't know anymore because I don't even play the game - -
And thank you! I'd love to answer anything you have troubles with, I'm glad to hear that I am of help. A to-bug list sounds cool by the way :)
My editing skills are far from good hahah. I just copy-paste the templates and layout in source mode and edit them adapt them to the corresponding page. Of course, some of my layouts looks horrible like the combo section on the Necro page. When I have time (and motivation) I'm gonna learn how to use sandboxes so I don't have to edit the page again if I forget something... which happens all the time and explains my amount of edits lol. It's often trivial and a waste of edit x.x
Watch out, because my to-bug list will be in action very soon!
What I'm asking is if you could translate the awards on the bottom page. You seem to know mandarin, so you're perfect for this! Of course, there's no hurry, take your time if you're busy~.
Thanks! Btw, I saw your sandbox, and I love the new templates you made! It'll look much neater and more organized and not to mention, easier to edit lol. Merrilee's conversation drove me over the edge because of the amount and lack of navigation haha.
Oh and yeah I was going to talk to you about the Sandbox too when you reply to the message, but I guess you went ahead and lol okay! It looks neater and organized but I don't know if it would be easier to edit. I think the Stats are easier though then the conversations because you will have to put the code in the source within the pages, the Stats can be used as a template.
And I love how you guys find and add the conversations with the Eidolons, it seriously is hard for me and I think time consuming. I'm impressed at your creativity and knowledge on the game!
When I entered the wiki, I was like "??? Where's the juicy parts about the Eidolons?" lol so I guess it came naturally for me to add them.
Trust me, it is time-consuming. Not only do I have to write their conversation by hand, but also screenshot it because the last line always fades away. And for the template, the hard part is pretty much if I already added the conversation or not, and the template looks easier to navigate through!
Now... I should probably spend my morning on how to use a sandbox...
The mount template doesn't really look like the one in-game. Do you think you can make it look more like this? If I could I'd do it myself... but the code seems too complex to me x.x
Oh haha, when I first started I wasn't really interested in Eidolons, I was only interested in the skills and the weapons... but as the game kept increasing more Eidolons, I feel that maybe the wiki really needs to add more of their information - -
Yeah I agree, sometimes you just have to take a screenshot than just writing it - it gave me so much bytes on my computer and I just deleted them... Yes it is hard if you have already added the conversation but I think it will be fine. Just copy the code and then replace the quoted sentences, but I think that would still be too much work to look at.
I can't wait to see what you come up with for the sandbox!
And I changed the code in the template {{Mount}}, check if it's matching... I don't know I probably need to update all other item templates too. To be honest, the items section is really hard and I always forget which template to use or if that was even right or not...
Haha, for me it's quite the opposite. Instead of the skills and data, I'm more interested of the lores, backgrounds and story behind the game and Eidolons. I guess that indicates we're seeing things differently whenever it comes to editing.
The template is perfect! I gotta run to school now, I'll add more mounts after school o3o
Well everyone has different interests, and they are all good things C: I rarely pay attention to the story behind the game even though I try to, so basically I have no idea how to actually talk about that in the wiki other than data...
Yeah that's why I actually wanted some people to take charge in some categories of the wiki, especially with things that they can edit and share. But it's still an enormous list...
Thanks! And I hope you have a great day at school!
Yup, we all have different interest. I might have exaggerated with the story part, main quests makes me wanna snore lol.
While I'm not really interested in the data itself, I'm more interested "behind" the data, example the game mechanics, theory crafting builds and of course, costumes! XD This makes me a bit versatile and edit a bit everywhere in the wiki, like the item and class department. So even with people being in charge with different things, I hope I can barge in and contribute in different areas.
But there are some people who plays for the story, but that's just other people. Yeah, many people tend to focus on the costumes, game mechanics, and interesting systems provided in the game, so I can agree with you on that.
This wiki actually doesn't assign roles for each member to actively and only edit in that type of category, they are free to edit anywhere as long as they have the information in their brains.
So do you want to use the template for the Eidolon's conversations and stats? I'm just leaving it in my sandbox for now if we don't really, necessarily, need to use it.
And @Kaizawaraiko, I edited the navigation, hopefully there are more content to be added. You can ask for any changes and such!
@KeyCode That's great! I hoped I wouldn't end up, like, disturb anyone by doing that... which was why I was a bit reluctant when I entered. But I guess it's fine to edit here and there then o3o
If you're done with it the template, of course we can start using it! I've been waiting for the stat template xD
@Kyara39 No worries, it won't disturb anyone, unless that kind of person has a different opinion...
I will be working on the stat template once I go home. And if there are any changes, feel free to ask!
By the way, I read your Sandbox! I've deleted the Tachi/Katana page and moved the Mounts to the Accessories on the navigation. The red text can now be changed, and the green-quality text will be number 4. For the Quest Log template, did you mean to leave out the gold and the EXP? I've made it hidden so that quests that give out EXP and gold are only visible. I've also blanked the Completion Condition objectives so that the report to is shown.
I like your way of keeping a to-bug list, it is fun trying to edit/improve things on the wiki from members who provide suggestions and changes that are matchable with the game.
Noooooooo you weren't supposed to look at it Dx but I guess that's fine since I was planning to dump it all on you later anyway hahaha...
As for the quest log, some quests doesn't give any EXP or gold at all. I was thinking something like this: making the EXP and gold available by default, but with an option to remove them completely. You did it precisely!
I think I was too vague with the Acc > Mount thing orz. I meant that Acc should be placed before Mount on the Wiki Navigator, not that Mounts should've placed in the Acc category. Sorry for being too vague!
Btw, you're at it, do you think you can blank the reward text? Since most quests doesn't give rewards. Also thanks! It's just a small list I made for improvements, but no one was really meant to read them since I planned to ask them personally lol.
Sorry I went busy but I read your message and checked the wiki activity and such, did some things that didn't take a lot of time on your sandbox.
I tried blanking the reward text on the Quest Log template but it is quite impossible because then I will have to remake the template styles and the black background would be separated from the text.
Oh wow I didn't know that, I will fix the navigation sometime soon when there are new item categories that could be displayed. Honestly I am a person that doesn't like to change one particular thing at a time, it would be best to do it all together. For templates it doesn't matter though.
The Dark Soul weapons I will delete if you created the correct version or replace the page, I don't know. I have no idea but that weapon was there before when I played it one year ago. And the Tachi list provided the weapons from the information book system from the game the last time I saw it, but I guess they might have changed their names.
Also thank you for catching my mistake for the Eidolon Stats template, uhhhh that B+ turned into an A, I wasn't looking well enough.
Well, I also have a question. When you click on one of the classes' skill pages, Sword Slash for example, are you able to see the tooltip so when you hover over the icon? Because I do know that some versions don't, so I might as well change it to the ones that are similar to the icon templates.
Haha, don't worry, I figured you're a busy-bee from the start. All my friends are busy-bees~
The blanking of the Quest Log was merely a beautification and isn't really important, so if it takes too much job, don't worry about it!
I see. I'll let you know when I've organised the categories a bit!
Yeah, I figured it was something like that. This is the real version of it. I could just rename the page but... I didn't want to repeat the HKAK and CHAK pages' incidents. x.x I'll create it soon, as getting a proper icon of the weapon isn't that easy.
Yes, I can see the tooltip of it. Also, if you could find a nicer layout for the other table I added I'd appreciate that too xD
EDIT: I updated and verified a bit on the Tachi page. Most of the names were correct, the only ones who were wrong were the last ones, which I corrected. I'm gonna create a new Tachi soon so I'll probably add the icons later.
EDIT again: Uhh I have no idea how to name the weapon icons... Help?
So sorry I never saw the message! Do you still need help with this or not?
I am not sure if you changed the dual blades thing, well I don't know. And I am not sure what table you meant?
Sorry the weapon icons naming was a mess when I edited the wiki. I was usually in charge of the weapons, but now I don't know anything about it. The naming system was supposed to follow the 05, 1, 15, 2, 25, ... so on but I should have just kept it with 01, 02, 03, ... The weapons I named were swordshield###, axe###.png, dualblade###.png, grimoire###.png, staff###.png, harp###.png, katar###.png, pistol###.png, cannon###.png, bow###.png, tachi###.png... but as you can see, some were messed up so ehh.
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